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		<title>Comment on Does Montgomery County Play Well With Other Jurisdictions? by John B.</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2011/10/does-montgomery-county-play-well-with-other-jurisdictions/#comment-3147</link>
		<dc:creator>John B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does the county typically own many buildings within the town&#039;s limits?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the county typically own many buildings within the town&#8217;s limits?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Montgomery County Play Well With Other Jurisdictions? by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Montgomery County currently owns the building and the land under it. I believe there was some talk of being willing to move it. Unfortunately, that would impact the proposed Historic District.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montgomery County currently owns the building and the land under it. I believe there was some talk of being willing to move it. Unfortunately, that would impact the proposed Historic District.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Montgomery County Play Well With Other Jurisdictions? by John B.</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2011/10/does-montgomery-county-play-well-with-other-jurisdictions/#comment-3133</link>
		<dc:creator>John B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who owns the building? Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who owns the building? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Throwing Money or Investing Wisely: What does that mean in government? by Joe Hokie</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2011/10/throwing-money-or-investing-wisely-what-does-that-mean-in-government/#comment-3070</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Hokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One only has to look at the mess on Patrick Henry Drive in Blacksburg to see the results of deferred maintenance and ignoring what paid staff says about problems that need to be taken care of &quot;NOW!&quot; Not that BHS was a great building to begin with, but perhaps if it had been better taken care of, it might have lasted a little longer. Then the Riner whiners could have taken care of and Blacksburg might have gotten a proper high school instead of the almost adequate rushed building it will be stuck with for the next 50 years.

Next crisis looming for the school board and stupidvisors who can&#039;t seem to understand that education is important in attracting business (and improving the tax base) is the age of other school buildings in the county -- Belview, Gilbert Linkous, Beeks, C&#039;burg Elementary, and Shawsville Middle. Some of these schools are not in bad shape and aren&#039;t in bad locations, but they are in serious need of upgrades to electrical, heating, kitchens, etc. They have had bandaids applied over the years, but pretty soon they will all need either major work or total replacement. Because of the reluctance to spend small sums of money over the years and the reluctance to look long-term and the major resistance to set a realistic tax rate for an urbanized county, we are going to be stuck with our third-world school system for a long time.

Of course, there was room to help the budget with some long-term thinking on new projects, but the school board opted to pass on that. Geothermal systems for HVAC for the two new elementary schools would have added to the initial cost of Eastern Montgomery and Prices Fork but after 5 years would begin to reap benefits for the county in reduced costs to operate the system (maybe sooner if the cost of fossil fuel keeps going up). But the board decided to go with the cheaper gas boiler, sticking future taxpayers with the long-term higher bills.

Sure, we can ask candidates all kinds of questions and they can lie with all kinds of pat answers, but once they are elected all bets are off and they can do what they want. No matter how earnest one person may be, once in with the bunch of weasels, there isn&#039;t much one person can do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One only has to look at the mess on Patrick Henry Drive in Blacksburg to see the results of deferred maintenance and ignoring what paid staff says about problems that need to be taken care of &#8220;NOW!&#8221; Not that BHS was a great building to begin with, but perhaps if it had been better taken care of, it might have lasted a little longer. Then the Riner whiners could have taken care of and Blacksburg might have gotten a proper high school instead of the almost adequate rushed building it will be stuck with for the next 50 years.</p>
<p>Next crisis looming for the school board and stupidvisors who can&#8217;t seem to understand that education is important in attracting business (and improving the tax base) is the age of other school buildings in the county &#8212; Belview, Gilbert Linkous, Beeks, C&#8217;burg Elementary, and Shawsville Middle. Some of these schools are not in bad shape and aren&#8217;t in bad locations, but they are in serious need of upgrades to electrical, heating, kitchens, etc. They have had bandaids applied over the years, but pretty soon they will all need either major work or total replacement. Because of the reluctance to spend small sums of money over the years and the reluctance to look long-term and the major resistance to set a realistic tax rate for an urbanized county, we are going to be stuck with our third-world school system for a long time.</p>
<p>Of course, there was room to help the budget with some long-term thinking on new projects, but the school board opted to pass on that. Geothermal systems for HVAC for the two new elementary schools would have added to the initial cost of Eastern Montgomery and Prices Fork but after 5 years would begin to reap benefits for the county in reduced costs to operate the system (maybe sooner if the cost of fossil fuel keeps going up). But the board decided to go with the cheaper gas boiler, sticking future taxpayers with the long-term higher bills.</p>
<p>Sure, we can ask candidates all kinds of questions and they can lie with all kinds of pat answers, but once they are elected all bets are off and they can do what they want. No matter how earnest one person may be, once in with the bunch of weasels, there isn&#8217;t much one person can do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Occupy Blacksburg by granthallock</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2011/10/occupy-blacksburg/#comment-3013</link>
		<dc:creator>granthallock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds of a American revolution for honesty in government sanity and non-fraudulent money finance is needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds of a American revolution for honesty in government sanity and non-fraudulent money finance is needed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christiansburg Town Council Candidate Forum by Christian Trejbal</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2011/10/christiansburg-town-council-candidate-forum/#comment-2965</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Trejbal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christian Trejbal (me) of The Roanoke Times editorial board will be tweeting live from the forum as @RTeditorial and using #Christiansburg.  Or just follow along at http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2011/10/christiansburg-candidate-forum/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian Trejbal (me) of The Roanoke Times editorial board will be tweeting live from the forum as @RTeditorial and using #Christiansburg.  Or just follow along at http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2011/10/christiansburg-candidate-forum/</p>
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		<title>Comment on Montgomery County School System &#8211; A Different Perspective by Joe Hokie</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2011/09/montgomery-county-school-system-a-different-perspective/#comment-2724</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Hokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While funding is a challenge to MCPS, a lack of good leadership in the central office up through the school board and to the board of supervisors is another area that gives teachers and students fits. When the Blacksburg High gym collapsed in February and a school board member declared in May &quot;we have a crisis&quot; that indicated a big problem. The crisis started the day the gym fell (actually it had been going on for years in that inadequate building, never mind the structural deficiencies), but to only discover it three months later is a bit much. The fact that there is still bickering over replacing a building that is damaged beyond repair only underlines that lack of leadership. It won&#039;t be too long, those who go with Conventional Wisdom say, before the school board is looking for a new superintendent because Brenda Blacksburn will hit retirement age and will bid this place &quot;goodby and good riddance&quot; and walk away with a nice package and plan that got her out of Florida and back home to Virginia.

As to the schools, like Prices Fork, Blacksburg High does well in various areas academically and in extracurricular programs because the teachers and parents are interested and supportive and put extra effort into making things happen. If the teachers/sponsors weren&#039;t good at what they do for debate, chorus, band, drama, and some of the vocational programs, the students wouldn&#039;t be in those programs and the parents wouldn&#039;t be shelling out the extra money to keep those activities going. What gets overlooked is the number of students who have gone on to major in those areas in college and in many cases have had successful careers, because of the start they got at BHS. They do well and bring back awards and honors from competitions and programs, but it takes parental support and funds (and fundraising) because there is little if any money coming from the school system (maybe buses and some extra pay for the teachers). This hurt during the flap (which is still going on) over the critical need for a new high school for Blacksburg (which had no building) vs. the school for Auburn when people where whining about &quot;Blacksburg gets everything&quot; (again, never mind that the attendance zone covers the northern half of the county, not just the town). In the scheme of things, the Blacksburg schools are on equal footing or come up short in the effort to make sure thing are &quot;equal&quot; across the county and the only reason it appears they have more is because the parents are willing to put in the time, effort, and money to make sure their children have what is needed to get a good education -- something that can happen at ANY school in the county.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While funding is a challenge to MCPS, a lack of good leadership in the central office up through the school board and to the board of supervisors is another area that gives teachers and students fits. When the Blacksburg High gym collapsed in February and a school board member declared in May &#8220;we have a crisis&#8221; that indicated a big problem. The crisis started the day the gym fell (actually it had been going on for years in that inadequate building, never mind the structural deficiencies), but to only discover it three months later is a bit much. The fact that there is still bickering over replacing a building that is damaged beyond repair only underlines that lack of leadership. It won&#8217;t be too long, those who go with Conventional Wisdom say, before the school board is looking for a new superintendent because Brenda Blacksburn will hit retirement age and will bid this place &#8220;goodby and good riddance&#8221; and walk away with a nice package and plan that got her out of Florida and back home to Virginia.</p>
<p>As to the schools, like Prices Fork, Blacksburg High does well in various areas academically and in extracurricular programs because the teachers and parents are interested and supportive and put extra effort into making things happen. If the teachers/sponsors weren&#8217;t good at what they do for debate, chorus, band, drama, and some of the vocational programs, the students wouldn&#8217;t be in those programs and the parents wouldn&#8217;t be shelling out the extra money to keep those activities going. What gets overlooked is the number of students who have gone on to major in those areas in college and in many cases have had successful careers, because of the start they got at BHS. They do well and bring back awards and honors from competitions and programs, but it takes parental support and funds (and fundraising) because there is little if any money coming from the school system (maybe buses and some extra pay for the teachers). This hurt during the flap (which is still going on) over the critical need for a new high school for Blacksburg (which had no building) vs. the school for Auburn when people where whining about &#8220;Blacksburg gets everything&#8221; (again, never mind that the attendance zone covers the northern half of the county, not just the town). In the scheme of things, the Blacksburg schools are on equal footing or come up short in the effort to make sure thing are &#8220;equal&#8221; across the county and the only reason it appears they have more is because the parents are willing to put in the time, effort, and money to make sure their children have what is needed to get a good education &#8212; something that can happen at ANY school in the county.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there benefits to Unions? by Jeffrey King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can connect the dots anyway you want to. There is surely a disconnect between what defines educational achievement and actual employment. In contacts with GM I got a fairly honest answer when I asked if their dealerships had any quality controls. The honest answer was that workers were minimally trained. That&#039;s not a goal, or saying how much anyone knows to become papered by the imaginary authority overseer. 

Unions may have provided a more genuine process than the current offerings of tech schools that rob people at the same rate as universities. Apprentice programs have the same issues as other time frame educations. Eventually it might lead to teaching to the test when real life is an open book for anyone that doesn&#039;t need to tap dance for a certificate.

As far as government filling the gap, that&#039;s even more laughable. Inspections produce revenue and do very little to protect the public. They attempt to hire someone that is a Master of Everything. Look at some of the time required to be a Journeyman of Anything. 

Often, the buyer has no idea what is good, better, or best. I don&#039;t know how to change that. Somehow, the people with the most money seem to be the most ignorant about common things. The rest are price shoppers first. The best customers will listen to, understand, and consider the options. The very best customers educate themselves to some extent so they can make a judgement about credibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can connect the dots anyway you want to. There is surely a disconnect between what defines educational achievement and actual employment. In contacts with GM I got a fairly honest answer when I asked if their dealerships had any quality controls. The honest answer was that workers were minimally trained. That&#8217;s not a goal, or saying how much anyone knows to become papered by the imaginary authority overseer. </p>
<p>Unions may have provided a more genuine process than the current offerings of tech schools that rob people at the same rate as universities. Apprentice programs have the same issues as other time frame educations. Eventually it might lead to teaching to the test when real life is an open book for anyone that doesn&#8217;t need to tap dance for a certificate.</p>
<p>As far as government filling the gap, that&#8217;s even more laughable. Inspections produce revenue and do very little to protect the public. They attempt to hire someone that is a Master of Everything. Look at some of the time required to be a Journeyman of Anything. </p>
<p>Often, the buyer has no idea what is good, better, or best. I don&#8217;t know how to change that. Somehow, the people with the most money seem to be the most ignorant about common things. The rest are price shoppers first. The best customers will listen to, understand, and consider the options. The very best customers educate themselves to some extent so they can make a judgement about credibility.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christiansburg&#8217;s Town Manager by Matt Herring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Herring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too bad no one thought about the contract before Lance Terpanny took all of the citizens of Christiansburg for a ride.  I still think someone should have been fired over that - or at least not re-elected.  The town has no problem giving away over $100,000+ of the taxpayer&#039;s money to Terpenny, yet they want to charge you $25 for picking up a small pile of tree limbs you have put at the curb, in an effort to make your property look attractive and reflect well on the neighborhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad no one thought about the contract before Lance Terpanny took all of the citizens of Christiansburg for a ride.  I still think someone should have been fired over that &#8211; or at least not re-elected.  The town has no problem giving away over $100,000+ of the taxpayer&#8217;s money to Terpenny, yet they want to charge you $25 for picking up a small pile of tree limbs you have put at the curb, in an effort to make your property look attractive and reflect well on the neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Price of Poor Planning for Christiansburg Taxpayers by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2011/08/the-price-of-poor-planning-for-christiansburg-taxpayers/#comment-2555</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My data is a couple of years old now. To get the information, go to the auditor of public accounts website and download the data for a specific jurisdiction and year. Revenue for real estate is provided as a total, so you need to submit a request to the jurisdiction in question for the amounts of each for that year. The apa site has all of the expenses for services for the jurisdiction. Then, there is the math to calculate average cost per property, then the .... well, you get the picture. I did the calculations myself AFTER I simply made a FOIA request from the Town and County. I tend to double check things. Their numbers added up. So, to find the most current data, simply contact the jurisdiction that you are interested in checking out and do the FOIA request.
As to who should pay what in taxes, well that goes back to multiple arguments here that the overall property tax is affected by the value of the properties. Any location that pushes to get a lot of &quot;affordable homes&quot; loses in the revenue arena. A family of 5 usually uses the same in services regardless of the value of the property. The higher the value of the home, the closer the property tax comes to paying for the full cost of services. That is why it is important not to overload a jurisdiction with low-cost homes, unless, of course, you want to see everybody&#039;s taxes go up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My data is a couple of years old now. To get the information, go to the auditor of public accounts website and download the data for a specific jurisdiction and year. Revenue for real estate is provided as a total, so you need to submit a request to the jurisdiction in question for the amounts of each for that year. The apa site has all of the expenses for services for the jurisdiction. Then, there is the math to calculate average cost per property, then the &#8230;. well, you get the picture. I did the calculations myself AFTER I simply made a FOIA request from the Town and County. I tend to double check things. Their numbers added up. So, to find the most current data, simply contact the jurisdiction that you are interested in checking out and do the FOIA request.<br />
As to who should pay what in taxes, well that goes back to multiple arguments here that the overall property tax is affected by the value of the properties. Any location that pushes to get a lot of &#8220;affordable homes&#8221; loses in the revenue arena. A family of 5 usually uses the same in services regardless of the value of the property. The higher the value of the home, the closer the property tax comes to paying for the full cost of services. That is why it is important not to overload a jurisdiction with low-cost homes, unless, of course, you want to see everybody&#8217;s taxes go up.</p>
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