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		<title>By: lcd reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2009/10/health-care-public-option-so-elected-officials-wanna-opt-out-for-me-and-for-you/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>lcd reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 12:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just book marked your blog on Digg and StumbleUpon.I enjoy reading your commentaries.</description>
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		<title>By: Why is America the only western democracy without a public health care system? &#124; Health Care</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why is America the only western democracy without a public health care system? &#124; Health Care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 00:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: What is the difference between the public health care option and the private health care option? &#124; Health Care</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2009/10/health-care-public-option-so-elected-officials-wanna-opt-out-for-me-and-for-you/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>What is the difference between the public health care option and the private health care option? &#124; Health Care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Why does public health care work in some countries and not others? &#124; Health Care</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2009/10/health-care-public-option-so-elected-officials-wanna-opt-out-for-me-and-for-you/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Why does public health care work in some countries and not others? &#124; Health Care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carol Lindstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.myvaresources.com/blogs/depotdazed/2009/10/health-care-public-option-so-elected-officials-wanna-opt-out-for-me-and-for-you/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Lindstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will have to agree to disagree on this one. Why let people get sick and or die while waiting to &#039;fix&#039; the issues you&#039;re talking about. If you look at the data, you are right that those who have no source of income are likely to have health care. The mass of people who do not have it are the ones that work but can&#039;t afford it! Not all companies provide health care. Each state has laws that sets restrictions on what/who is covered. Simply moving to another state because of your job could leave you without insurance. There are more loopholes for insurance companies than there are holes in a rat infested swiss cheese factory. Regulating insurance? Since when? They have been allowed to run rampant for decades. The original concept of Insurance was non-profit. Each insurance company has its own forms to fill out and clinics and hospitals are spending huge amounts of money, needlessly, to process a lot of information that isn&#039;t even necessary.

Do you think all of that information about family history, personal medical history, lifestyle, etc. are to treat your cold. Heck no, they are stored away in data banks. Those data banks are mined so that they can decide what rates to charge what people ... often based on nothing more than race, sex, and ethnicity.

I&#039;m betting that if it comes to a vote, we&#039;ll cancel each other out:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will have to agree to disagree on this one. Why let people get sick and or die while waiting to &#8216;fix&#8217; the issues you&#8217;re talking about. If you look at the data, you are right that those who have no source of income are likely to have health care. The mass of people who do not have it are the ones that work but can&#8217;t afford it! Not all companies provide health care. Each state has laws that sets restrictions on what/who is covered. Simply moving to another state because of your job could leave you without insurance. There are more loopholes for insurance companies than there are holes in a rat infested swiss cheese factory. Regulating insurance? Since when? They have been allowed to run rampant for decades. The original concept of Insurance was non-profit. Each insurance company has its own forms to fill out and clinics and hospitals are spending huge amounts of money, needlessly, to process a lot of information that isn&#8217;t even necessary.</p>
<p>Do you think all of that information about family history, personal medical history, lifestyle, etc. are to treat your cold. Heck no, they are stored away in data banks. Those data banks are mined so that they can decide what rates to charge what people &#8230; often based on nothing more than race, sex, and ethnicity.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m betting that if it comes to a vote, we&#8217;ll cancel each other out:)</p>
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		<title>By: See through them!</title>
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		<dc:creator>See through them!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also need to reply to your four points above.

1.  I like this approach if you are talking about a national vote.  Let&#039;s do put the public option to a national vote.  If 80% are currently covered and relatively happy with that coverage, the public option crowd will get trounced.  Why?  Because those of us that have healthcare are staring at higher taxes, higher premiums, and less adequate care.  Not to mention the inevitable declining spend in innovation, if a public option is passed.  If you are referring to putting the public option in a seeing if it works, I don&#039;t want to pay for the experiment financially or with long lines and inferior care.  THE PUBLIC OPTION AND/OR HEALTHCARE REFORM AS BEING PROPOSED HAS TO BE PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYER.  OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT EARN 1 DIME.  THEY TAKE THEIR MONEY FROM INDUSTRY AND THE TAX PAYER, NEED I REMIND YOU.  MANY OF US HAVE NO MORE CASH TO GIVE TO GOVERNMENTAL EXPERIMENTS.  GOVERNMENT REVENUE GROWS WHEN THE TAX BASE IS HEALTHY, NOT WHEN WASHINGTON IS KIILING WITH INDUSTRY AND THE TAX PAYING INDIVIDUALS WITH HUGE DEFICITS AND TAX INCREASES.

2. I am not pleased or proud of the job the insurance companies have been doing.  But next to banking, do you know of an industry that is, or has been, more heavily regulated by the federal government.  All that brilliant regulation has led to skyrocketing costs and little competition in the states the insurance companies are allowed to set up shop and practice.  This is crazy.  Start by reviewing and creating smart legislation that provides an appropriately competitive environment across the country and still protects consumers from unfair practices, such as dropping insured or refusing appropriate treatments.

3.  The &quot;pursuit of life, liberty, and hapiness&quot;.  This entitles citizens the right to get off their asses, get educated, and get a job or career.  If you are a legal citizen, nobody is denying you these rights.  If you are mentally or physcially disabled, as a compassionate people, we should help you out.  If you are lazy, believe work is beneath you, and would prefer to have your families live off the system generation after generation, you have earned nothing material or monetary required to be provided by other citizens who have pursued their inalienable rights.  Healthcare is earned, just as a home, a car, a cell phone, a vacation.  There is no depravation of rights to pursue prosperity, enjoyment of life, or individual liberties within the law in the system today, just people with differing priorities in the lives.   Prioritze wisely.

All this being said, reform is necessary, but it has to be smart and focused on the real &quot;cost&quot; side of the problem.  Doctor&#039;s fees and Insurance company profits are not the major culprits in the crisis.  Fraud, legislative limits on competition, and malpractice law are.  Fix these first!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also need to reply to your four points above.</p>
<p>1.  I like this approach if you are talking about a national vote.  Let&#8217;s do put the public option to a national vote.  If 80% are currently covered and relatively happy with that coverage, the public option crowd will get trounced.  Why?  Because those of us that have healthcare are staring at higher taxes, higher premiums, and less adequate care.  Not to mention the inevitable declining spend in innovation, if a public option is passed.  If you are referring to putting the public option in a seeing if it works, I don&#8217;t want to pay for the experiment financially or with long lines and inferior care.  THE PUBLIC OPTION AND/OR HEALTHCARE REFORM AS BEING PROPOSED HAS TO BE PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYER.  OUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT EARN 1 DIME.  THEY TAKE THEIR MONEY FROM INDUSTRY AND THE TAX PAYER, NEED I REMIND YOU.  MANY OF US HAVE NO MORE CASH TO GIVE TO GOVERNMENTAL EXPERIMENTS.  GOVERNMENT REVENUE GROWS WHEN THE TAX BASE IS HEALTHY, NOT WHEN WASHINGTON IS KIILING WITH INDUSTRY AND THE TAX PAYING INDIVIDUALS WITH HUGE DEFICITS AND TAX INCREASES.</p>
<p>2. I am not pleased or proud of the job the insurance companies have been doing.  But next to banking, do you know of an industry that is, or has been, more heavily regulated by the federal government.  All that brilliant regulation has led to skyrocketing costs and little competition in the states the insurance companies are allowed to set up shop and practice.  This is crazy.  Start by reviewing and creating smart legislation that provides an appropriately competitive environment across the country and still protects consumers from unfair practices, such as dropping insured or refusing appropriate treatments.</p>
<p>3.  The &#8220;pursuit of life, liberty, and hapiness&#8221;.  This entitles citizens the right to get off their asses, get educated, and get a job or career.  If you are a legal citizen, nobody is denying you these rights.  If you are mentally or physcially disabled, as a compassionate people, we should help you out.  If you are lazy, believe work is beneath you, and would prefer to have your families live off the system generation after generation, you have earned nothing material or monetary required to be provided by other citizens who have pursued their inalienable rights.  Healthcare is earned, just as a home, a car, a cell phone, a vacation.  There is no depravation of rights to pursue prosperity, enjoyment of life, or individual liberties within the law in the system today, just people with differing priorities in the lives.   Prioritze wisely.</p>
<p>All this being said, reform is necessary, but it has to be smart and focused on the real &#8220;cost&#8221; side of the problem.  Doctor&#8217;s fees and Insurance company profits are not the major culprits in the crisis.  Fraud, legislative limits on competition, and malpractice law are.  Fix these first!!!</p>
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		<title>By: See through them!</title>
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		<dc:creator>See through them!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;public option&quot; is not an option.  We will be in either a free market health care plan or a government controlled plan, period.  There is strong evidence that as proposed, if a state opts out the citizens of that state will still be responsible for the funding of states that opt in.  States will ultimately have no choice, but to get in to recoup some of the costs they will be forced to contribute.   Please understand that this no longer has ANYTHING to do with managing health care costs and everything to do with the power of the federal government.  Regardless of party affiliation, if you believe government can efficiently and cost effectively manage and administer 1/5% of the US economy, you are smoking something.  They have absolutely ZERO track record of administrative or cost efficiency, much less both.  This will cost tax payers greatly and will result in signicant decreases in the quality of currently covered Americans (80%) healthcare.  There are better ways to truly address costs and coverage of those that need it.  Let&#039;s all pull our heads out of the sand, reprioritze and restate the true goals of healthcare reform and start over.  This is too important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;public option&#8221; is not an option.  We will be in either a free market health care plan or a government controlled plan, period.  There is strong evidence that as proposed, if a state opts out the citizens of that state will still be responsible for the funding of states that opt in.  States will ultimately have no choice, but to get in to recoup some of the costs they will be forced to contribute.   Please understand that this no longer has ANYTHING to do with managing health care costs and everything to do with the power of the federal government.  Regardless of party affiliation, if you believe government can efficiently and cost effectively manage and administer 1/5% of the US economy, you are smoking something.  They have absolutely ZERO track record of administrative or cost efficiency, much less both.  This will cost tax payers greatly and will result in signicant decreases in the quality of currently covered Americans (80%) healthcare.  There are better ways to truly address costs and coverage of those that need it.  Let&#8217;s all pull our heads out of the sand, reprioritze and restate the true goals of healthcare reform and start over.  This is too important.</p>
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		<title>By: AAP Textbook of Pediatric Care &#124; Superstar Book Deals</title>
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		<dc:creator>AAP Textbook of Pediatric Care &#124; Superstar Book Deals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fed up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fed up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opting Out

I listened to the debate between our two candidates for governor and ended up turning off the debate because I was disgusted by Mr. Deeds comment about the public option. While I may or may not agree with the public option, I should have a right to vote on whether or not the state opts in or opts out. No offense to public officials (in both parties), but I really don&#039;t trust you all to vote the interests of your constituents, especially when corporations are funding your campaigns. Personally, I think the folks up in DC should put in a provision to opt out, but require a public referendum to do so. Put it on the ballot and find out what people actually think.</description>
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<p>I listened to the debate between our two candidates for governor and ended up turning off the debate because I was disgusted by Mr. Deeds comment about the public option. While I may or may not agree with the public option, I should have a right to vote on whether or not the state opts in or opts out. No offense to public officials (in both parties), but I really don&#8217;t trust you all to vote the interests of your constituents, especially when corporations are funding your campaigns. Personally, I think the folks up in DC should put in a provision to opt out, but require a public referendum to do so. Put it on the ballot and find out what people actually think.</p>
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		<title>By: Wellescent Health Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wellescent Health Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunate that the country&#039;s leaders are taking it upon themselves to decide whether the public option should exist in health reform, but given that the political system requires no more involvement than voting for a horse every few years, it is not surprising that the politicians have free reign in deciding what our options are.

We cannot expect politicians to do what we want unless we are constantly voicing our opinions as loudly as we can. We simply give them too much freedom and are too often wooed by their speech writers than by their policy details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that the country&#8217;s leaders are taking it upon themselves to decide whether the public option should exist in health reform, but given that the political system requires no more involvement than voting for a horse every few years, it is not surprising that the politicians have free reign in deciding what our options are.</p>
<p>We cannot expect politicians to do what we want unless we are constantly voicing our opinions as loudly as we can. We simply give them too much freedom and are too often wooed by their speech writers than by their policy details.</p>
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